They are misleading you...

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Zeitgeist The Movie Part 1 (part one on religion) insinuates that the story of Jesus is merely a drop in the bucket of many saviors with the same story. That they were all born on Dec 25th, crucified, ressurected etc...

 

I found it SHOCKING! Sooooo shocking that I spent a month and a half of my life researching the valididty of the claims and this is what I found. I want to extend a personal thank you to my friend Drakul from the David Icke forums, for lighting the spark.

 

References by request from my friend ecstatica23: Note: I may add to this list as Im positive Ive left something out

 

Dr. Norman Geisler writes, "The first real parallel of a dying and rising god does not appear until A.D. 150, more than a hundred years after the origin of Christianity.

 

Dr. Gary Habermas and Dr. J.P. Moreland write, "Not one clear case of any alleged resurrection teaching appears in any pagan text before the late second century A.D., almost one hundred years after the New Testament was written."

 

Charlie Campbell says, "To insist that Jesus Christ is a myth - that He never existed - as the Zeitgeist movie does, is foolish. Beside the twenty seven New Testament documents that verify He lived, there are thirty nine sources outside of the Bible, written within 150 years of Jesus life that mention Him. These sources include the Jewish Talmud, the Roman historian Tacitus, the Didache, Flavius Josephus, Pliny the Younger, Suetonius, the Gnostic gospels (e.g., the gospel of Thomas), etc. These extrabiblical sources reveal to us more than 100 facts about His life, teaching, death and even resurrection."

 

Blavatsky: http://www.blavatsky.net/ http://www.blavatskyarchives.com/

 

Jordan Maxwell: http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/bio/2_affiliations.html http://www.truthseeker.com/ http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/sources.htm

 

Kersey Graves: http://www.atheists.org/Atheism/roots/graves/ http://www.spirithistory.com/kgraves.html http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/richard_carrier/graves.html

 

Christ Conspiracy http://www.amazon.com/Christ-Conspiracy-Greatest-Story-Ever/dp/0932813747/

 

Alice Bailey: http://www.lucistrust.org/ (UN NGO)

The Destiny of the Nations by Alice A Bailey

Discipleship in the New Age 2 Volumes by Alice A Bailey

The Externalization of the Hierarchy by Alice A. Bailey

The Reappearance of the Christ by Alice A. Bailey

 

UN Charter (focused on chpt 8-11): http://www.un.org/aboutun/charter/

 

The Garland of Nation-Souls: Complete Talks at the United Nations By Sri Chinmoy

 

THE NEW AGE INFLUENCE AT THE UNITED NATIONS http://contenderministries.org/articles/UN_aaclucis.php

 

Aquarian Age Comminity (UN NGO): http://www.aquaac.org/about/about.html

article entitled, "A New World Religion", by William Jasper

 

Share International/Benjamin Creme: http://www.share-international.org

 

On Masons worshiping Lucifer: http://www.cuttingedge.org/free11.html

 

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Date: 2008-03-23 14:21:00 - Added by: Mister X
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Zeitgeist the movie is Bullsh*t
Zeitgeist gives me brain Ulcers pt. 1 is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRZmzf7WiNg My sources can be found online at: www.sacred-texts.com www.nasa.gov
Date: 2008-03-02 10:47:33 - Added by: Frank
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Zeitgeist Debunked 5/5

Its quite simple, They instead offer books from authors such as Tim Leedom, Massey, Acharya, Doherty. This is laughable as a resource list if you have looked in to these claims. It's the equivalent as me referencing Glenn Beck to prove there is no 911 conspiracy. I know its hard to believe that Tsarion or Alan Watt have been quoting known disinfo in their dissemination of this idea, but look for yourself, The numerous claims made by this movie concerning Jesus's many similarities are either true or false.

Before I move on here are the links to various debunkings of the "Christ myth" Here is a great look at the ridiculous claims of most of the authors on that list (how they get away with this stuff is beyond rational thought)This movie also tries to make the claim that the Catholic churches pagan ideals, symbolism ,and rituals are somehow proof that Christianity itself is a part of this, nothing could be further from the truth.

Lets take December 25th mentioned at least a dozen times in the film. The date of December 25th, which was officially proclaimed by the church fathers in A.D. 440, was actually a vestige of the Roman holiday of Saturnalia, observed near the winter solstice, which itself was among the many pagan traditions inherited from the earlier Babylonian priesthood. Any person that doesn't drool on themselves will tell you that nowhere in the bible is this date mentioned or inferred in ANY way.

It is ludicrous to say that and pagan rituals involving this date can be linked to Christianity before the catholic church got a hold of the idea, that is, ALMOST 500 YEARS LATER. This illustrates that the Vatican has very little to do with true Christianity except for the obvious problem that they themselves always claim that they ARE Christianity.

Date: 2008-03-01 21:45:50 - Added by: Frank
Views: 232 - Votes: 2 - Rating: 2.5
 
Zeitgeist Debunked 4/5

Its quite simple, They instead offer books from authors such as Tim Leedom, Massey, Acharya, Doherty. This is laughable as a resource list if you have looked in to these claims. It's the equivalent as me referencing Glenn Beck to prove there is no 911 conspiracy. I know its hard to believe that Tsarion or Alan Watt have been quoting known disinfo in their dissemination of this idea, but look for yourself, The numerous claims made by this movie concerning Jesus's many similarities are either true or false.

Before I move on here are the links to various debunkings of the "Christ myth" Here is a great look at the ridiculous claims of most of the authors on that list (how they get away with this stuff is beyond rational thought)This movie also tries to make the claim that the Catholic churches pagan ideals, symbolism ,and rituals are somehow proof that Christianity itself is a part of this, nothing could be further from the truth.

Lets take December 25th mentioned at least a dozen times in the film. The date of December 25th, which was officially proclaimed by the church fathers in A.D. 440, was actually a vestige of the Roman holiday of Saturnalia, observed near the winter solstice, which itself was among the many pagan traditions inherited from the earlier Babylonian priesthood. Any person that doesn't drool on themselves will tell you that nowhere in the bible is this date mentioned or inferred in ANY way.

It is ludicrous to say that and pagan rituals involving this date can be linked to Christianity before the catholic church got a hold of the idea, that is, ALMOST 500 YEARS LATER. This illustrates that the Vatican has very little to do with true Christianity except for the obvious problem that they themselves always claim that they ARE Christianity.

Date: 2008-03-01 21:44:14 - Added by: Frank
Views: 195 - Votes: 3 - Rating: 3.34
 
Zeitgeist Debunked 3/5

Its quite simple, They instead offer books from authors such as Tim Leedom, Massey, Acharya, Doherty. This is laughable as a resource list if you have looked in to these claims. It's the equivalent as me referencing Glenn Beck to prove there is no 911 conspiracy. I know its hard to believe that Tsarion or Alan Watt have been quoting known disinfo in their dissemination of this idea, but look for yourself, The numerous claims made by this movie concerning Jesus's many similarities are either true or false.

Before I move on here are the links to various debunkings of the "Christ myth" Here is a great look at the ridiculous claims of most of the authors on that list (how they get away with this stuff is beyond rational thought)This movie also tries to make the claim that the Catholic churches pagan ideals, symbolism ,and rituals are somehow proof that Christianity itself is a part of this, nothing could be further from the truth.

Lets take December 25th mentioned at least a dozen times in the film. The date of December 25th, which was officially proclaimed by the church fathers in A.D. 440, was actually a vestige of the Roman holiday of Saturnalia, observed near the winter solstice, which itself was among the many pagan traditions inherited from the earlier Babylonian priesthood. Any person that doesn't drool on themselves will tell you that nowhere in the bible is this date mentioned or inferred in ANY way.

It is ludicrous to say that and pagan rituals involving this date can be linked to Christianity before the catholic church got a hold of the idea, that is, ALMOST 500 YEARS LATER. This illustrates that the Vatican has very little to do with true Christianity except for the obvious problem that they themselves always claim that they ARE Christianity.

Date: 2008-03-01 21:43:22 - Added by: Frank
Views: 198 - Votes: 2 - Rating: 2.5
 
Zeitgeist Debunked 2/5
Its quite simple, They instead offer books from authors such as Tim Leedom, Massey, Acharya, Doherty. This is laughable as a resource list if you have looked in to these claims. It's the equivalent as me referencing Glenn Beck to prove there is no 911 conspiracy. I know its hard to believe that Tsarion or Alan Watt have been quoting known disinfo in their dissemination of this idea, but look for yourself, The numerous claims made by this movie concerning Jesus's many similarities are either true or false.

Before I move on here are the links to various debunkings of the "Christ myth" Here is a great look at the ridiculous claims of most of the authors on that list (how they get away with this stuff is beyond rational thought)This movie also tries to make the claim that the Catholic churches pagan ideals, symbolism ,and rituals are somehow proof that Christianity itself is a part of this, nothing could be further from the truth.

Lets take December 25th mentioned at least a dozen times in the film. The date of December 25th, which was officially proclaimed by the church fathers in A.D. 440, was actually a vestige of the Roman holiday of Saturnalia, observed near the winter solstice, which itself was among the many pagan traditions inherited from the earlier Babylonian priesthood. Any person that doesn't drool on themselves will tell you that nowhere in the bible is this date mentioned or inferred in ANY way.

It is ludicrous to say that and pagan rituals involving this date can be linked to Christianity before the catholic church got a hold of the idea, that is, ALMOST 500 YEARS LATER. This illustrates that the Vatican has very little to do with true Christianity except for the obvious problem that they themselves always claim that they ARE Christianity.

Date: 2008-03-01 21:41:43 - Added by: Frank
Views: 261 - Votes: 2 - Rating: 2.5
 
Zeitgeist Debunked 1/5

His sources exposed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdrnEo_2QW8 must see. Zeitgeist the new "truth" movie being promoted by its makers on conspiracy message boards around the internet has been thoroughly debunked. It is disgusting to think the makers would try to sell it as a "truth movie" considering that it has dozens (over 50) easily provable factual errors.

This is a slap in the face to the people who have died and will continue to do so in this patriot movement, we would expect nothing less than 100% accuracy of any movie in the 911 truth realm. We are talking about specific false claims that have been debunked for years, yet because this is the first time its been put into a form of a movie It has new life.

This is not about a defense of a religion, it is about the integrity of information and our right not to be lied to by people claiming to be "truthers". You will notice that they don't site one single original source for the Jesus similarities they claim exist, you would think if it was true that the ancient texts showed such similarities, they would simply site these ancient texts. They don't because they do not exist.

Its quite simple, They instead offer books from authors such as Tim Leedom, Massey, Acharya, Doherty. This is laughable as a resource list if you have looked in to these claims. It's the equivalent as me referencing Glenn Beck to prove there is no 911 conspiracy. I know its hard to believe that Tsarion or Alan Watt have been quoting known disinfo in their dissemination of this idea, but look for yourself, The numerous claims made by this movie concerning Jesus's many similarities are either true or false.

Before I move on here are the links to various debunkings of the "Christ myth" Here is a great look at the ridiculous claims of most of the authors on that list (how they get away with this stuff is beyond rational thought)This movie also tries to make the claim that the Catholic churches pagan ideals, symbolism ,and rituals are somehow proof that Christianity itself is a part of this, nothing could be further from the truth.

Lets take December 25th mentioned at least a dozen times in the film. The date of December 25th, which was officially proclaimed by the church fathers in A.D. 440, was actually a vestige of the Roman holiday of Saturnalia, observed near the winter solstice, which itself was among the many pagan traditions inherited from the earlier Babylonian priesthood. Any person that doesn't drool on themselves will tell you that nowhere in the bible is this date mentioned or inferred in ANY way.

It is ludicrous to say that and pagan rituals involving this date can be linked to Christianity before the catholic church got a hold of the idea, that is, ALMOST 500 YEARS LATER. This illustrates that the Vatican has very little to do with true Christianity except for the obvious problem that they themselves always claim that they ARE Christianity.

Date: 2008-03-01 21:38:52 - Added by: Frank
Views: 384 - Votes: 3 - Rating: 3.67
 
The Zeitgeist Movie. Truth Exposure? Or PSYOPs-Gust?
I'll add further commentary in the near future. For now, some links: Chris White's page, with links to his radio show and related websites. http://conspiracyclothes.com/nowheretorun/ Take the Zeitgeist Movie Challenge. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALFTi1R1af0 http://conspiracyclothes.com/nowheretorun/zeitgeist_challenge.html Why are "truthers" such as Alan Watt, ignoring rational and reasonable questions about his work? Why is he pretending the issues raised are to do with the Christianity of the questioners - and therefore religious and thus personal - when the issues are more to do with historical accuracy and integrity? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qzKcGKTbaM http://sitchiniswrong.com/ http://www.michaelsheiser.com/ Did Jesus really exist? http://www.thedevineevidence.com/ http://www.thedevineevidence.com/jesus_history.html http://www.thedevineevidence.com/pagan_copycat.html
Date: 2008-03-01 21:35:48 - Added by: Frank
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I Admit Defeat
Refutations of zeitgeist the movie: The official video "zeitgeist refuted: http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=7572663630528394775&q=zeitgeist+refuted&total=7&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0 Kabanethechristian (kabane52) his refutations: Part 1: http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=tyzT8s50ags Part 2: http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=lL_0gCspCS8 Part 3: http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=BHNohE8plNA Part 4: http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa3pRdnO-No Part 5: http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=xbobrJ90M9U My copy of zeitgeist on my channel Was jesus a sun-god Part 1: http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=KjKdnlQMOcY Was jesus a sun-god Part 2: http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=6jFoGI3bMqg Was jesus a sun-god Part 3: http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=pv60czPPbWE
Date: 2008-03-01 21:29:50 - Added by: Frank
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Zeitgeist Movie Bull (on Religion)

A torment against the atheistic propaganda... Sources used: Horus-Encyclopedia Britannica Attis-Jean Richepin Nouvelle Mythologie Illustree(1921), Pausanias Greece, 7.19(200 A.D) Dionysus-Theogony of Hesiod(700BC), Jean Richepin Nouvelle Mythologie Illustree(1921) Krishna-Encyclopedia Britannica, Mahabharata (500 BC) Mithra-Encyclopedia Britannica, Encyclopedia Iranica Three Kings-Lettres de Mon Moulin (1866), Gospel of Matthew 2:1-12 aeon-Matthew 28:20(Greek Gospel) Miracle birth-wikipedia on Luxor Temple Moses-Old Testament:Exodus Sargon-King 1907: 87--96, based on a neo-assyrian text from 700bc, Summerian King List (2125 B.C) Joseph & Jesus-Genesis:37-45, Gospel of Matthew 26:15 Justin Martyr-Justin Martyr's Apology Ch.XXI

Next time before you arrogantly dare to ask me what my sources are, ASK ABOUT ZEITGEIST'S SOURCES! When someone is claiming that Horus, Krishna, Attis etc were similar to Jesus, HE MUST BRING SOURCES FROM ANTIQUITY THAT MENTION THESE CHARACTERISTICS!If he doesn't, then he is a LIAR!

Date: 2008-03-01 21:25:54 - Added by: Frank
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