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Truth behind the scriptures. 5 Months, 2 Weeks ago Karma: 0  
Have you ever played that game in school where the students stood in a single file line and the teacher whispered something into the first students ear and that student then attempted to whisper the exact same thing into the next student's ear and so on and so forth all the way down the line until the last student in line got the message? What were the results? A different message than the original that the teacher started. This is how I can sum up modern day religion. Now back to this zeitgeist thing...

Horus, The misinterpreted "Sun God" or more correctly "The Light" is born on December 25th. This is the same day that Christians celebrate the birth of their Savior Jesus. Let me start off by saying that we are not talking about a man. We are talking about the sun itself. "The Light" is a correct interpretation of Horus because Horus is the sun and not a god of the sun or a man.

"The Light" passes through the virgin's womb, or more correctly the sun passes through the constellation Virgo, which is the second largest constellation that we observe, between the months of September and October just a couple of months prior to it's "new birth". A miraculous virgin birth is a misrepresentation of these facts. The sun's rising on December 25th is accompanied by the bright star to the east, Sirius, which is followed by the three kings, or the stars that make up Orion's belt. The ancients called these three stars this and they are still referred to as the three kings even to this day. Wise men are traditionally used in Christianity for this story which also translates to kings. So what these ancient people were looking at in the early morning of December 25th was Orion's belt in direct alignment with Sirius and all four of these celestial bodies in alignment pointing to the sunrise on December 25th.

Now there are stories about how Jesus and Horus did miraculous things during their life. I will not discuss at what ages these men did these things in those particular stories because like I said before, we are not talking about men or Gods. We are talking about the Sun itself. I will however say that the sun has performed the biggest miracle that we know. It has given life to this planet. As far as both Jesus and Horus walking across water... Well... If you observe the sun's reflection on a lake or even ocean waters, one can interpret that it does indeed "walk across water". This is merely an observation that these ancient people made and has been misrepresented as this story has passed down through the years.

The story of both Horus and Jesus having 12 disciples or apostles is a misrepresentation of the 12 zodiac signs, or the 12 months of the year which in all actuality tell a story of our sun's celestial cycle. In both stories these disciples were to tell a story about their God or savior and most importantly for Christians were the teachings of Jesus that we call the bible today. I can say that mathematically, the twelve zodiac signs in the sky do tell a complete story of the full cycle of our sun. The life and death of a man, again seems likes it's a misinterpretation of the story that the ancients were telling as they observed these things in the sky above.

There is a story in both Pagan and Christian beliefs that both men were betrayed by someone. In the bible it says that Jesus was betrayed by one of his own men. In Pagan stories it was said that Typhon betrayed Horus, or Osiris. Speaking of which, Horus, Ra and Osiris in my opinion were names for where the sun rests throughout the day. It was simply a way for these ancient people to tell time. Anyways, back on track. What I believe, and this is clearly my opinion and I do not have any factual evidence to back this claim up. I believe that what these ancient people were observing in this story was a solar eclipse. The sun being the biggest body that they observed was overshadowed by the moon, which looks equally as big given the distance that both bodies are from earth, and the moon denied the light of the sun for a portion of that day. This can be comprehended as a betrayal for the moon would not let the sun's light pass.

The story of both Horus and Jesus being crucified is an interesting one. Who exactly invented crucifixion? I don't know. What I do know is that during the winter solstace, the sun's lowest point in the sky, is within the vacinity of the constellation Crux, or southern cross. With all the vegitation dying around them due to seasonal change, I can easily see why the ancient people could think that the sun was dying. The sun gives us life. If the sun dies, everything on earth dies and I think this is clearly what these ancient people were witnessing.

After the sun has been moving south for 6 months, it stops moving for three days. We call this the winter solstace. Because from Earth's perspective the sun does indeed appear to stop moving for these three days. Sounds familiar to a biblical tale right? Jesus dies on the cross (which I depicted above) and is buried for 3 days. The same tale has been said about Horus. Then on December 25th, the sun rises. This time however it moves 1 degree north and continues to move north for 6 months bringing warmth and vegitation life back to the planet. This sounds like a ressurection to me. Very similar to the stories that you hear in the bible and in some Pagan tales.

Hmmm... So coincidence? I don't think so. I'm neither Pagan nor Christian. In fact, I have my own belief system. I just find it very interesting that these stories that we hear in all these religious tales can be accounted for by just observing the sky above. And think about it. These ancient people didn't have lights, they didn't have advanced writing or even resources to refer to like we do in encyclopedias today to mark their history. All they had were the people around them, the bright night sky above them, and stories to tell about what they are seeing all around them. They were just as confused as we are today. The only difference is that they were talking about factual observations. And these stories that were being passed down from generation to generation through multiple languages and civilizations from the beginning of man got misinterpreted into religious beliefs. And these religious beliefs have led to war, famine, destruction and death.

If a simple sentance can't be recalled exact and to it's entirety in 2 minutes through 30 people in a classroom, do you honestly think that a story of observation can be recalled in 500,000 years through different languages and civilizations? We growing more stupid as a species. We are not growing wiser. We are not advancing in our evolution as human beings. We are degressing. Honestly, what do you think these ancient people would say if they knew what the world has become today? It's sad. It really is.

If you've made it this far, I hope you've enjoyed the read. If you didn't and want to debate, I'm more than happy to oblige. Just keep it a civil one. People want facts. I for one want facts. So far, the only factual evidence that I can find is by simply looking toward the sky. These observations are factual. I'll respect you for you beliefs as long as you show the same courtesy to me.

Thank you for reading.
 
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Re:Truth behind the scriptures. 5 Months, 2 Weeks ago Karma: 0  
Oh by the way. You can keep the money. $250 is chump change. I'd take far more satisfaction in teaching where these stories actually originated from than receiving $250 because that kind of money is a freaking joke. Oh... if you want proof of what I'm saying, simply look at a few star maps. This is the real deal. Just look up and you'll see all the proof you need. No imaginary god or person was the center of these stories.
 
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Re:Truth behind the scriptures. 3 Months, 3 Weeks ago Karma: 1  
Horus was a sky god, not a sun god. Ra was the sun god.

Horus was never crucified.

Typhon was never part of the Horus mythology, so he certainly didn't betray him. Typhon was in Greek mythology, not Egyptian.

Horus was never called "The Light"

Horus didn't have 12 disciples. Depending on which version you read, he had either four, sixteen, and they were unnumbered.

Jesus' resurrection happened in the spring, not in late December.

The sun never stops moving in relation to the earth. The ancients never claimed it stopped moving for three days.

No ancient people claimed that the sun "walked on water".

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"Horus was never crucified"+"Horus never had 12 disciples"
Not true. In "Christ in Egypt" Acharya S. clearly points to two pictures rgarding this. In one of them it shows Horus followed up by 12 disciples neatly aligned by him. And in another picture you can find him depicted as being crucified (I believe atop a mountain).

"Horus was not a sun god"
Then explain the giant ball atop his head.

"No ancient people claimed the sun 'walked on water' "
Neither did the person who submitted his article. All he was claiming was that seing as how the sun reflected on the water that it looked like it was "standing" on top of it, which is where the ancients' solar sun-god personifications got this quality originally.
 
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"Horus was never crucified"+"Horus never had 12 disciples"
Not true. In "Christ in Egypt" Acharya S. clearly points to two pictures rgarding this. In one of them it shows Horus followed up by 12 disciples neatly aligned by him. And in another picture you can find him depicted as being crucified (I believe atop a mountain).

"Horus was not a sun god"
Then explain the giant ball atop his head.

"No ancient people claimed the sun 'walked on water' "
Neither did the person who submitted his article. All he was claiming was that seing as how the sun reflected on the water that it looked like it was "standing" on top of it, which is where the ancients' solar sun-god personifications got this quality originally.
 
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"Horus was never crucified"+"Horus never had 12 disciples"
Not true. In "Christ in Egypt" Acharya S. clearly points to two pictures rgarding this. In one of them it shows Horus followed up by 12 disciples neatly aligned by him. And in another picture you can find him depicted as being crucified (I believe atop a mountain).

"Horus was not a sun god"
Then explain the giant ball atop his head.

"No ancient people claimed the sun 'walked on water' "
Neither did the person who submitted his article. All he was claiming was that seing as how the sun reflected on the water that it looked like it was "standing" on top of it, which is where the ancients' solar sun-god personifications got this quality originally.
 
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